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Bracket with code: Fl 30232-1

#1 von Kris , 02.09.2011 10:06

Dears,

Please help us and inform at which type of German fighter was used following typ of bracket with serial number Fl 30232-1 ?
Is it from pilot cockpit or from parachute ?

(Photos from internet) Looks on the parachute but .... used at diffrent type of aircrafts ?
http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum24/unfl.jpg
http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum24/3078.jpg

We found this near place of damage during IIWW German wrack and trying to ID which pilot could fly at aircraft.
By the way some of others things from this wrack. Maybe helps at id of aircraft ?
We are almost sure that pilot was from JG3 from Altdamm or Prenzlau

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdgeschwader_3
http://www.cieldegloire.com/jg_003.php

and was shout down probably March 1945. Maybe one of missing from this list:

http://www.luftwaffe.be/miajg3.html

At above matter we will inform also German side but first of all we have to take position from GPS and have to know type of aircraft.

Looks on the Fw-190 but can anybody confirm ( what about Bf-109) ?

Any sugestion to text: Bock ? Name of worker from Fabrik of aircrafts ?
What is it: http://files.homepagemodules.de/b208090/f70t359p1176n3.jpg ?

Next we will write down information about wrack and place.

Thanks for help.

If you can help us please write to:
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RE: Bracket with code: Fl 30232-1

#2 von Viceroy , 02.09.2011 13:01

FL 30232 is the number for the Gurtzeug of the "rueckenfallschirm" - the harness of the backpack parachute, so -1 means a part of it.
The parachute was used on differnd kinds of aircraft, experts can tell you, if the harness 30232 was used on the "Sitzfallschirm" also.
The Sitzfallschirm normaly was used in fighter aircraft, pilots sitting on it like on a pillow

 
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RE: Bracket with code: Fl 30232-1

#3 von Kris , 03.09.2011 10:01

Thanks for answer.

Dears could you help us in contact with experts/specialist in subject of German fighters Fw-190 and Bf-109 ?

We think that pilot could be from:

JG-3 Jagdgeschwader 3 - http://www.cieldegloire.com/jg_003j.php
or
SG-1 Schlachtgeschwader 1 (Stettin-Altdamm) - http://www.asisbiz.com/Luftwaffe/Schlachtgeschwader-1.html


Fighter was crashed beetwen (germ.:Karsbach) and germ. Hinzendorf) - present in Poland.
First of all me must id type of aircraft (full details) - was a lot of versions for: FW-190 as here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190 or Bf-109 http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Bf_109)
So it is not so easy.

All comments can help us. Maybe somebody has contact with German Luftwaffe veterans from SG 1 or JG-3 ?

Our contact is:
info@pomorze1945.com


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RE: Bracket with code: Fl 30232-1

#4 von Kris , 04.09.2011 00:09

On the one of photo is shown pices of aircraft with name: Bock - could it be used as description of memory place ?
Maybe somebody found SOLDBUCH and rewrite name of pilot in Feb. 1945 ?

Of course it is only suggestion - not confirmed !!!


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RE: Bracket with code: Fl 30232-1

#5 von Gast , 11.09.2011 14:21

Hello here Kris,

I just write as guest from another PC but you can answer for me on prive for Kris as above.

Just now I looking for contact on e-mail with authors of book:

Jagdgeschwader 3 Udet in World War II: II./JG 3 in Action with the Messerschmitt Bf 109


Jochen Prien & Gerhard Stemmer

Please help me with contact with them.

Thanks

Kris from Poland/Stettin


RE: Bracket with code: Fl 30232-1

#6 von Kris , 12.09.2011 21:13

Hello here Kris,

I just write as guest from another PC but you can answer for me on prive for Kris as above.

Just now I looking for contact on e-mail with authors of book:

Jagdgeschwader 3 Udet in World War II: II./JG 3 in Action with the Messerschmitt Bf 109


Jochen Prien & Gerhard Stemmer

Please help me with contact with them.

Thanks

Kris from Poland/Stettin

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RE: Bracket with code: Fl 30232-1

#7 von harrison987 ( Gast ) , 28.09.2011 17:07

The Fw190 pilots could not use the Sitzfallshirm, due to the styleof the seat...so you can rule out Fw190. Probably an Me109.

Mike

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RE: Bracket with code: Fl 30232-1

#8 von rookie1 , 28.09.2011 17:44

Hello,
I found out something which may be interesting regarding the type of the airplane:

I think the part with the nut (hexagon) inside and the inscription "hsr" could be from a DB Motor. Why?
Ok, if the inscription is really "hsr" (and not "hsn"), this is a part coming from the Henschel Flugmotorenbau GmbH in Kassel.
I searched in the Internet and found following page (in German, sorry): http://regiowiki.hna.de/Henschel_-_Flugmotorenwerk
If it is true, that there were built only DB-Motors (it is spoken from the types 601, 603, 605, 610), the plane can not be a Fw190.
But, as you see, it is just a very thin hint but maybe an interesting path to follow.

regards,
Harald


 
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RE: Bracket with code: Fl 30232-1

#9 von Gast , 01.10.2011 21:53

Hello ,

OK, thanks for answer we will check it.

We will back to this matter.

Greetings from Kris :)


RE: Bracket with code: Fl 30232-1

#10 von Kris , 03.10.2011 20:18

Dears ,

I"m looking for: LW Loss Report, Microfilm #12

have somebody of you this film ?

Probably from German Records (OKL- OberkommandoderLuftwaffe)
I have info. that in this film is information about Hans Bock.- maybe somebody could check it ?

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